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As part of my interest in Adobe technologies, I had been part of Kerala Adobe User group. Trying to build a community of Adobe technology users to share info and support each other. I have hosted the UG site at godsowsdevelopers. We had a very successful user group meeting at Oberon mall on 12th Dec 2009. Being the first meeting it was conducted on an unofficial manner in order to measure the attendance and support of the members and as a bench mark to plan ahead for future meetups.

From Adibe User Group meet 12th Dec 09

I would be entirely grateful to Mr. Vipin Chandran and all the members of Toobler for making the event a success. Majority attendees were from toobler under the guidance of Jerry and Bobbin. We had SEO specialists, PHP expert, Artists (award winning at that), cold fusion expert, Flex and flash developers.

From Adibe User Group meet 12th Dec 09

We started off when the team from toobler reached us. We were joined by Musavir and couple of others later on. We had general discussions, introductions and the distribution of the Adobe goodies. We venue was not exactly suitable for open discussions as there was this music going on. Yet once vipin joined us things heated up as he took everything into control with expert views and opinions from his vast experience with Adobe software.

From Adibe User Group meet 12th Dec 09

Later on we decided to have a stand up talk anchored by Vipin where we had some discussions on web services, flex 4, Cold fusion Builder etc. He advised on how to move forward with the group and gave some valid points regarding other User groups and meeting which he had known in his 9+ years of industrial experience.

From Adibe User Group meet 12th Dec 09

We all had a lot to learn from the bits of info he was sharing. He also told the team about planning the next meeting more officially with dedicated sessions and support infrastructure. Later on we planned about spreading awareness about the user group among other IT companies and institutions and taking it to the next level in 2010. We have decided to conduct next UG meet in Kochi itself at a more dedicated meeting space with projectors and sessions. All those who missed out on this one are welcome to join up and be active in strengthening the activities and spreading the news.

Special thanks to all those who attended

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So I had the opportunity to take a full day workshop on Blender at the Engineering college, ASIET at Kalady. It was organised as part of the software freedom day by the Computer Science students at the college.

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I had prepared a lot this time around which covered all segments of character modeling and animation. Mr. Vishnu from the college who had contacted me for the workshop, had mentioned that all students were interested in character development. College turned out to be highly disciplined and all the students were already present and seated when i arrived. Was a bit late for that matter and thanks to some real driving from bro’s part, we reached almost on time. Manoj was with me for the workshop. I had a meeting with the principal and HOD at the principals room. We talked about how 3d art can be used for inter college competitions and the betterment of students.

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I used my mac mini for the demonstration and blender worked just fine. The students helped screen the 2 ope movies in blender. I also showed them some games which were developed in blender along with final character rigs for some of my characters and some professional characters.

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The sad thing was that, i could not even take 20% of what i had originally prepared. Well but i hope i had instilled some interest among the students there.

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Session at Amrita

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This time it was my third visit to kumarakom. The place has some unforgettable memories for me and this time around it was no less. Here is the post on the earlier one. This time it was a houseboat trip arranged by Arun George for his marriage. Class mates from College of Engineering Chengannur were supposed to join up for the trip and visit him for marriage the other day.

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I was the first one to reach the boat as timeliness was an asset with all my friends and they were supposed to reach the place at 11.30

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I waited for them to join up and had a chat with the people of the boat. Here are the details on the boat if any one want to contact – Alumparanbil, Cheepunkal, Kumarakom North, 0481-2525797 (Soji-9846184654)
It will cost you around 11000Rs for one day trip on the boat. It had 3 bed rooms and sun deck with vcd tv on board. We had natural cocconut drinks on arrival and the food was commendably good.

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It was the day of election results and thanks to hightech Jyothis we had live net on blackberry and laptop.

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We had smirmoff vodka sponsored by AGT, but there would be no fun without the local Toddy :) So we came ashore at R-block, which was an artificial island created by Murikkan and taken over by the Govt. He had cultivated cocconut in the whole island and it was the hub for Toddy. We had 5 litres for Rs70/Ltr.

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But just before having the drinks we decided to take a bath in the salty waters on vembanad lake. It was really shallow and we had some limited fun in it as the water was real salty.

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Now inside the boat too the water supply was salty and i got informed that it was seasonal when the lake water gets salty due to onrush of seawater. Licenses for boat to travel was till 6 pm at night, after which they had to be ashore. So some of our friends were coming to join us at night, it was a tricky place to find as we were inside remote areas of the lake. But we ultimately found each other in the thick of the night.

Heated political discussions were there all through out the night when all the topics under the sun were seriously covered. I found myself sleeping on the sun deck that night as a watchman for the boat. It was fun despite the mosquitoes. Next day we arose to the magnificent sight of migratory birds in the fields near by.

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We got ashore near cheepunkal bridge at 9am and were ready for the marriage at kottayam.

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Attended bck five point oh aka BCK5 at technopark. This one had lots of specialties to it, we had a new Tshirt being distributed (RS 220) , I was taking a session on Adobe technologies, lots of attendees and we got to travel with SEO guru Mani Karthik from dailyseoblog.com. Check out some photos here

My session slides are shared here

Now it was fun traveling with Mani as he was giving out expensive tips and help. Also being a god driver we reached prior to the organisers. When we reached there we saw Binny already present and after a little bit Anand and Kenney came along. We went to have food together which was kinda fun. We also had with us Binoy who was displaying his all new HP mini lap. The sessions were fun as Binnys session fired up new talks and discussions. Now looking forward to next one.

Some old links here : Barcamp1, Barcamp2

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The idea was there when i first did my trip to wayanad. I selectively left out Chembra peak for the sole reason to conquer it with fellow trekker Anish. So we planned to execute it on the third weekend of March09. Anish came to my home the friday evening and stayed with us. The next day we had an official agreemetn signing of a court case which had been prevailing for some years now. That was a satisfying settlement as we were getting some money back. We started our travel on bus before after noon. We had to see Devraj as Anish had to collect a mural painting which dev was doing. At trissur we met up with dev and he handed over the 6 foot mural of ‘Ashtalakshmi‘ which pictured 8 lakshmi goddesses. Anish settled the payment and we took a bus to kozhikode where we planned to deliver the mural, get the Fuji camera that anish had a friend bring him from US. When everything got settled it was very late at night and we planned to book a ticket to wayanad. Although we booked our tickets we found that our seats were already taken, thanks to some real sloppy work by the people at the ticket counter. Duplicate tickets were given out for the same pair of seats and we were left out. We got a refund and waited for the next bus. We reached Kalpetta at nearly 2 am and started enquiring about lodgings. Alas all the lodgings in Kalpetta was booked. This was news and the reason was that during weekends people from bangalore make weekend getaways to this place and all locdgingd got booked on weekends. We looked around for some time and found that the onl y option left was to find transport to sultan bethery and find a lodging there. We waited at bus stand and then the magazines arrived. Bunch of people started sorting everything. We were amazed to find this activity and to our happiness we found that the vehicle was going to sultan bethery to deliver news paper. We got a ride and it was real fun as the vehicle was free rolling onto shops to throw paper kits over to them. At sultan bethery we got a lodge for Rs 450 which was not worth Rs150, but we had no complaints.

We started early after 3 hours sleep, took bus to Kalpetta where we enquired about any bus leaving in the evening in which we can book tickets back. But the timings were not right. So we had food and got on bus to meppadi were we got an auto to Chembra peak. We actually stopped over at the forest range office at meppadi and the officer there informed us that the permission was not to be given from there. We would get the pass and guides from the office near the peak itself. The auto guy took us to the ticket counter which was on the way upto the chembra estate.

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The tickets were for Rs 1000 for hard trekking and Rs 500 for mild trekking. This was an overkill as i had made treks on Himalayas for much cheaper rates. They will provide a guide for the rate and we were charged Rs 500 and allotted the hard trek. We all know that no one will come trekking if they charge Rs 1000. The auto took us to the bottom of the estate for Rs 70. It was 7kms and it was fair enough.
We started our walk towards a look out post where we found another guard. It was a scenic poit from where we can see the landscape.

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The trek was supposed to be 4 hours up and down if we took it at a stretch. It was 2100 feets climb to the top and we took turns to rest when the guide simply walked on. We saw some other gangs returning from the trek and some foreigners too. It was only after a while that we saw the peak for real.

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The whole area was barren due to a recent wild fire. Actually there should have been long grasses which were 6 feet high blocking all views. But this time we could see everything and that really killed the fun. We reached the lake where the mild trekking will end. Had some chocolates and bananas and lots of water. Advise is to carry 2 bottles of water atleast.

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The trek consisted of 5 tiers of mountain climbing one after the other. We could reast after each steep climb. It was kind of severe when considered to the other treks that we had made.

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It took us 3 hours to reach the summit. After some initial troubles we had become accustomed to the trek and towards the end it just ended abruptly. Last stretch of climb was rocky and fun.

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On reaching the summit every one lied down basking in the mild sun. Sun had gone behind clouds and there was good breeze. This was relaxing. No one spoke a word, we just rested there watching the beauty all around us.

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We were feeling real hungry by now as we didnt take much food on the way and have not had a good nights sleep. Suddenly we found that it was going to rain. We both had new cameras and were terrified at getting wet. So we had to rush down to beat the rain.

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So we rushed down and made it back in record time. We just beat the rain and reached our Auto ride whom we had called up on our way back. We got back to our lodgings and took some rest, food and refreshment. We cancelled the idea of going for the Air bus as it was really late. We took a late night KSRTC to my place and Anish exited at his Uncles place at Kozhikode. We both knew that this was the most severe trek we had performed yet. It was also kind of dry as the vegetation was all removed due to the fire. I think i will take a break from dry treks for a while and rather look for scenic places for the time being. Looking forward to a getaway in the coming months.

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From Life Snaps

I take this opportunity to thank you for allowing us to conduct the educational tour. I
am pleased to present the following tour report,
As planned we departed from the college at 5:30 pm on 8-8-2000. We stopped at Kumily at
10:00 pm for taking permit. By that time we had dinner and got refreshed.
We reached Pondicherry at 9:00 am on 9-8-2000. We went to Youth Hostel and had breakfast
and refreshment there. From Youth Hostel we went to VDesign Pvt. Ltd. for the technical
visit. We attended a seminar on VHDL (Very high speed integrated circuit Hardware
Description Language). After the seminar, TPC members from S3 B held discussions with the
director of the firm. After the technical visit we had lunch at hotel Ram International. After
lunch, we went to Aurobindo Ghosh Ashram. There we offered prayers at the samadhi of the
great saint. After visiting the ashram, we spent time on the Beach Road. We also found time
for shopping at the Nehru Street, which was nearby. After shopping we had dinner at hotel
Sagar. At 11:00 pm, we left Pondicherry for Yercaud.
We reached Yercaud at 7:00 am on 10-8-2000. After breakfast at hotel Tamil Nadu, we went
for sight -seeing. We went to Lady’s Seat, a viewpoint 3 km from the hotel on foot, as it was
not accessible by bus. On coming back we had lunch from the same hotel. After lunch, we
went for trekking to KilliyurWater falls. But we couldn’t visit the falls as it was about to rain
_and we were forced to return~ After trekking we went for boating at 5:30 pm. Pedal boats
were available for rent till 6:30 pm. At 6:45 pm, we went back to hotel and prepared for our
campfire. Dinner was served at 8:30 pm. We conducted the campfire at 10:00 pm and went to
bed at 11:30 pm. At 6:30 am on 11th, we left Yercaud.
~== On way to Black Thunder, we had our breakfast in a restaurant at Bhavani. There we were
surprised to meet the S3 D batch on tour. We reached Mettupalayam at 12:30. Lunch was
served free of cost inside Black Thunder itself for all the students and staff members. We
enjoyed the water games till 6:00 pm and we left for Coimbatore at 6:00 pm.
–= ~=~
Dinner was arranged at Hotel Annapoorna near the Town Hall. After dinner, we went for
shopping till 10:30 pm. At 11:00 pm we left Coimbatore and reached our college at 5:00 am
on 12-8-2000 as planned.
The technical visit arranged at Pondicherry was very much informative. The tour also helped to
create a better understanding between the students and the staff members. I once again thank
you on behalf of the class for allowingus to conduct our educational tour.
Sd/-
Arun George T
Tour Representative
S3B
CEC

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shoulder

When i was passing out of professional college i wanted to do some kool thing which others think twice or thrice before following. Then this desire died out in time when i wandered around aimless for a couple of years , ultimately landing at my destination. After some hectic time at entrepreneurship at office suddenly boredom was setting in..then suddenly my long lost desire came back!

Now what was too kool with out much trouble..which i can accomplish that others wont follow up. Hmm after long thoughts and brainstorming i found out the original desire which was lying dormant in my mind all these years – get a tattoo!

Tattoo was always a taboo in my society and i never wanted to do stuff against my parents wishes. Everyone is supposed to do social functions with their shirts off in Hindu religion, so i cant get too wierd. So i decided on a black and white twin dragon tattoo which was quite famous. Then all of a sudden 2 of my friends got tattoed and started making fun of me. I was the one who was talking abt getting the tattoo and they overtook me. hmmm no w i have to live upto the reputation by doing something better..lets see. The i booked tickets to blore where these guys got the tattoo and informed my friend Aby , yes the same guy! I didnt tell any one else but got permission from mom, thank god she doesnot care much these days and has given me a grownup status!

So i was there one weekend and we started off to find the studio the next day which was a sunday. We found the studio in commercial street after getting wierd looks from ppl with whom we had to ask the directions. Then i saw there were other studios also and some of them did gunshots! ehmm! It was a small room and the long haired handsome (girly) artist welcomed us. I am very nervous about getting affected by some health problems..even Aids for that matter. The setup didnt look very good. Anyways the guy gave me courage and took out 3 albums of tattoo designs. We started looking thru..meanwhile we asked the rate and all. It was rated per square inch i believe, my memory a little rusty. Normal shoulder tattoos costed around 1000 -2500. Then i saw colored tattoos..well i had to do something better. I decided not to use the dragon design i have brought but rather do a full shoulder colored tattoo. After a great amount of support from aby i decided i will do the rising phoenix!

Now came the pain time. I had to sit for sometime to get the courage to start. He asked if i had had food or it will feel dizzy. Then i removed shirt and sat on the chair. He took the design and started drawing with the pen. Normal pen ok! The design was complete and then he took out the tatoo pen and the needle! oh my God! the needle is gonna prick my skin 1000 times per second ohh..atlast i told him i was ready. It felt like a painfull vibration i had to clench my fists and close my jaws. Seconds were years. He completed the outline and gave me a break. it lookd good at that time and we were both happy and the pain session vanished from memory.
After some time the guy came back and took out the colors. The painting session was about to begin. Now this is something that i wont endeover again in my life, ever! The pen crisscrossed inside the design to fill in the color. It was more painful and took years to complete. Blood was everywhere and he kept on cleaning with cotton and dettol. The end product was never as beautiful as the design i saw on picture but i was very eager to get going. We also made him add flames under the phoenix, which i regret right now. Anyways he told how i was to take care of the skin for one month to come and bandaged the complete stuff.

When we got back to my evening bus from madiwala all friends were there awaiting to see the tattoo. I never let them touch anything as it pained a lot. Aby had informed all and even juniors were there to see. Hmm my friend from school saw me and was making a issue of the whole thing. He made fun of me infront of some relatives..and i still remember how their faces changed when he told why i came to blore!

Anyways the wound healed in 1 and a half weeks and there was not complexities. It looked like a blurred bubblegum tattoo. So many people thought it actually was a bubble gum tattoo..good for me! Right now i am happy with the phoenix but it restricts me from displaying my body around. Only when i go outside kerala do i usually use my sleeveless skin tight shirts.

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But lifes fun…what shd i do next?

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Life was always complicated and it remains so even now. Every thing was different, sometimes i made them so, but usually they were like that in the first place. It took me a lot many years to even decide what i wanted to do with my life. It was not easy as trying a normal life was sometimes a challenge in itself. So when i had found the courage to think of myself and take serious decisions in life i made simple guidelines.

Follow my heart, do what you want to do. Dream realisable dreams, try to get them.

I was not sure what path to follow, what career to pursue. I never wanted to go on studying for ever, even when i was good at it. It never meant anything to me other than readying us to understand the world around us. I wanted to use any talents that i was given and put it to good use. Create something out of it and create a meaning for my life. I told myself that if God decided not t give you something, then you are all the more responsible for what God had given you specially. I think i am successful in that being part of Csharks. I am able to create a dozen jobs and able to drive foreign money into India and that also from scratch.

I was crazy about computer games when i was in my college. It eventually ended me up with Csharks. But my first dream was to buy a computer which made justice to all my gaming needs. I saved some money during my initial days at Csharks to buy the best gaming rig at that time. It cost me 80K and had a 36K dedicated dualcore graphics card in it. My successful dream of owning a gaming machine. It was time for having a good mobile too, my idea was to buy sonyericsson phone. Sony had excellent aesthetics and it always appealed to me as an artist. When Sonys w850 slider came out i went for it for nearly 20k. My savings were completely over by that time as we were not really trying to make profits with our firm back then.

Other than that i wanted to see the world around me. I made traveling a hobby. It was not so to begin with, but i specifically followed friends who liked to travel. I was successful in that too as i was abe to visit the himalayas, trek south indias 3rd highest peak and swim in many exotic waterfalls.

Now there came the idea to settle down and have a lady in my life. Here again i wanted to follow my heart and go for a lady whom i wished to be there in my life. I as always tried my maximum as failure was never something which i could take easily. Now this time around it was failure awaiting me, but then i learned some hard facts. Even though you plan things right and consider the odds in your favour, there arises certain unforeseen complications which screw things up for you. In my case this complication was something that i could never change or correct. It was time for me to accept the defeat as it was and to move on. I still believe that we make our life, i would rather take this incident as an exception.

So dream left now is for me to get a drive. I currently dream of the new Honda City Automatic with paddle shift. Driving dream was something which i killed when i realise how difficult it was for me to get a license. Now it has become all the more important for me to get it. That is the key to my freedom and i need it desperately. Although i am not sure of how to raise the money for the wheel, i am hopeful that it wont be much of a trouble once i get my license.

Now i guess i have to find more dreams to follow, i have my professional dream of making Csharks big. Then it will take time and its more of a long term goal. Anyways i am not building any dreams for my partner again, we dont really make the same mistake twice.

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Feb 3 08 9:30 A.M.

Final Venue (fixed)
DOE (Department of Electronics) Seminar Hall CUSAT
Thrikkakara Campus

Sessions

Xtend IVR – A RAD Toolkit for Telephony

by Jayakrishnan K

This was a demo for an IVR toolkit called Xtend IVR.
This is a fairly comprehensive IVR toolkit – it supports Indian
languages and had its own simple scripting language.

Mobile Social Networking in 25 days

By Vishnu Gopal

He spearheaded the change for Mobshare.in to make it ’sellable’

java-script: The most underestimated, undervalued and misunderstood language

By Binny VA

He explained how JS is such a powerful language which is never fully exploited and the power never really churned out..

Develop a webservice in 5 minutes using nuSoap library

By Sanil

How to use the nuSoap PHP library to connect to and create Web Services.

Game Development Using Flash

By Me and Anish

Well this one was fun. Last time we had pormised to take a session, but couldnt do it. This time we had planned to do it for sure. The idea was to take a multi session where eldhose will take DirectX stuff, i will do some Flash stuff and Anish will demonstrate with the development of Balancing Mathai. Alas! Eldhose got severe cold and it was onto me and Anish to deliver and we had one day to do that. I started thinking and thought Anish will probably take a session on making without slides and i even doubted if he will show up as he had to travel a lot to reach the place. I planned to take a new session which can be lengthened if need be and shortened without trouble. Then came up the idea of Mobile game dev!

In normal business at csharks we would never have thought about this unless we had a plan to start it in the monthly meeting. I started r and d on saturday and read some good articles by Indian Flash lite Guru Marian D of india games. It was real encouraging as well as challenging. Then eldhose came up with a flashlite demo game which i tried to study. Then the idea was born, let us port our own Balancing Mathai game to mobile in FlashLite 1.1 :) I had the art and the technology, i just need to face the practical problems. Back home i started the work at 8pm. It took me to 2am sunday to complete the working demo.

I didnt have the slides though, hence i put up alarm at 5 am. Mom was coming back from Kasagoad that morning and hence i had to wake up early anyways. Early morning i seriously started working on Openoffice. I never had tried to create slides with it till that day. Anyways things well really fast and i had the slides by 8 am. Eldhose came by with severe cold to give the laptop amd checked out the slides and the prototype. I didnt look twice and copied everything onto the laptop and started to Cusat. I was late and the first session had already started. We had Sha at Cusat who was once the managing partner of Csharks currently doing his MBA at cusat. Anish was not to be seen. I Doubted if i have to take the session all by myself. After some time Anish called in and he reached us. Along with sha we moved to front row for Vyshnus Mobshare session.

All sessions planned were not there, but the leaders of the theme was Kenney and Vyshnu from the last Barcamp. I was looking forward to meet some one from Depicti media, but they we stuck up in blore and could not attend. We had out lunch at the ICH cusat with treat from Sha who was telling us that we were visistors to his premises. ..very nice indeed! Last session was ours after Binnys JS enlightner and nuSoap by Sanil. Anish started off an unprepared realtime presentation with some hype and excellent choice of steps. His presentation was precise and he amazed the crowd by showing just hoe simple it was to turn some code into a great game. When balancing mathai was demonstrated people were really impressed. Sha was always there to start the cheer and some times it turned out to be awkward. After Anish i had my session which interested 50% of the audience while other were sleeping :) . Anyways there was a lot of questions after finishing the session and i liked when people wanted to know more about game dev, blender and stuff.

After session there was a talk by Armia CEO and he promised to sponsor the next barcamp at Infoark and to get atleast 5 ceos to sit and hear the things. Kenney also told about how students were going to start barcamp Junior. We are looking forward to the next barcamp which may be at infopark or NIT calicut. What will be the next session? Will decide the day before ;)

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Jaleel was the one who informed me about this barcamp being help for the first time in Kerala. The decision was instant, even when there was only 2 days to make the schedule and lots of works to complete, we decided to b apart of it. It was the 24Nov sat. The sunday one employee was getting engaged and we had to make that too. SO we just hoped this one to be worth it. The plan was all laid out instantly. Anish will join me and eldhose on the way at kayamkulam at late night 1.20 on the train. We were to get in Egmore Xp. Now on short notice we decided to get some samples of the brochure printed. FOr something to work out we needed emergencies ;) SO by evening 645 we had the final draft of the brochure, all was done perfectly by salini and now it was upto us to get it printed. We never knew what to expect, if we could make the train at 10.30. The designer made an effort to get things movig asap. And by 915 we had 4 brochures with us. The colors seemed different, the different sides were out of match. And we had to compromise on the size. Well it is a sample right.
We got one bus to Aluva and we were not much hopeful about catching the train. Meals were skipped and banans were taken. But the good thing was, the train was late and we got in. Also there was not much rush and we got sitting space in general compartment. As expected anish was no where to be seen at kayamkulam. So we thought he will catch up at tvm. We got out at station at 345 am and got a room at the dormitory. ANish called early morning and he slept at the visitors room at kayamkulam. We got ready at 6.30 and by 7 we started to kazhakkottam.
We reached bhavani building where it was to be held. After enquiring at a lot of places atlast we found the place. One student was standing at the doors of the hall. No one else was there. We decided to have food. All were having stomach problems and sleep hangovers. This better be good. When we reached back, we met some kool guys who were the organisers of the meet. Kenny, renjith, and the gang was working hard to get this done. This being a 0 budget endeavour, was superbly executed. The flaw was that there were not much quality crowd with whom we could share some talk. Majority were students and there was no point making an impression on them. They are the future and they should be making better stuff than us. We were supposing to get a glimpse of Android- the google mobile platform. We talke don it with renjith who was the one supposed to take the seminar. Vishnu took a presentation in game dev in Ruby. We also thought for a while on taking a presentation. But the crowd made us decide against that. At noon we started back, to reach back home at 12 mid night. And to our dissappointment we found the brochure untouched. But what the hell we made the brochure finally. :)

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